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Re: Genetic Engineering

Postby William one eye » Sat Aug 13, 2016 12:36 pm

Increase in lifespan, will result in an additional problem, extreme population increase. This would mean possible food, water and space allocation issues. In addition huge to amounts of increased pollution.. for those of you who are highly concerned by that. As more people will need to keep buying consumer products and traveling. If immortality from death due age or disease became possible. All these issues would quickly slip out of manageable range limits. The only possible population control measures would be expand to other planets, mandatory termination date.. ie come in for euthanasia you have lived to long, government regulated birth allowances. And Initially this will only be available to the ultra rich, then the moderately rich, then
the someone will decide it should be a right of all man and the middle class will be forced to foot the bill. I do see benefits of lower medical costs in resources wasted on disease, and people being more productive in society due to better health - assuming they choose to work, and a better knowledge base due to increased possible life spans. In general this requires proper balance.
Also you we may see a huge increase in substance abuse and similar risk taking due to perceived immortality, which could also cause problems. However using gene therapy to extend my life I may be able to live long enough to see a return on investment for my academy tech

That is my point of view.
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Re: Genetic Engineering

Postby DezNutz » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:47 pm

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DezNutz wrote:Nope. Homo sapiens have survived for thousands of years without artificial genetic manipulation. Messing with natural selection is stupid. Studying to understand the human genome is another story.


that really isn't long for a species to survive, i hope you know that. humans are still new to this world in terms of length of time here


Yes we haven't lived long compared to other species, but name another species that has surpassed it's primitive instincts without human interaction. Name another species that has developed new technologies to survive.
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Re: Genetic Engineering

Postby William Pitt » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:48 pm

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Re: Genetic Engineering

Postby John jacob astor » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:52 pm

DezNutz wrote:
John jacob astor wrote:
DezNutz wrote:Nope. Homo sapiens have survived for thousands of years without artificial genetic manipulation. Messing with natural selection is stupid. Studying to understand the human genome is another story.


that really isn't long for a species to survive, i hope you know that. humans are still new to this world in terms of length of time here


Yes we haven't lived long compared to other species, but name another species that has surpassed it's primitive instincts without human interaction. Name another species that has developed new technologies to survive.


hmmm, well we can start with homo erectus, nicknamed "handy man" because they created tools to survive. How about creation and control of fire? that wasn't homo sapiens either. guess who? homo erectus. we could go on and on.

and the fact that all genus "homo" species evolved from apes means that apes surpassed their primitive instincts before humans were even on the planet
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Re: Genetic Engineering

Postby DezNutz » Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:24 pm

John jacob astor wrote:
DezNutz wrote:Yes we haven't lived long compared to other species, but name another species that has surpassed it's primitive instincts without human interaction. Name another species that has developed new technologies to survive.


hmmm, well we can start with homo erectus, nicknamed "handy man" because they created tools to survive. How about creation and control of fire? that wasn't homo sapiens either. guess who? homo erectus. we could go on and on.

and the fact that all genus "homo" species evolved from apes means that apes surpassed their primitive instincts before humans were even on the planet


Homo erectus is still human. homo is of the human genus. So my question still stands show me a species that surpassed it's primitive instincts without human (homo) interaction.

HAHA. So since you think all living things came from microbes near volcanic vents in the oceans, show me the skeletal remains of a fish that had legs. They must have existed if you follow evolutionary theory. The only credible point in the theory of evolution is natural selection. Furthermore categorization of similar traits does not mean we evolved from those with similar traits. Now go back and de-evolve with your ape ancestry.
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Re: Genetic Engineering

Postby William Pitt » Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:31 pm

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Re: Genetic Engineering

Postby Grimrock Litless » Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:32 pm

Evolving from homo erectus to human, was something that is very rare, just think about it, 50 mill years of evolution, and we are the first in so long to evolve superior brains.

Evolving was something random, the environment the species live in is what determine what gets to stay and what doesn't and because of this, better evolution get to become better, and bad ones, get wiped out.
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Re: Genetic Engineering

Postby Bmw » Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:34 pm

Cap'n Delrio wrote:Came to Pirates Glory to escape from science class.
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Re: Genetic Engineering

Postby Grimrock Litless » Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:37 pm

What if I told you, that believing in god was because of evolution.
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Re: Genetic Engineering

Postby DezNutz » Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:41 pm

Guluere wrote:Evolving from homo erectus to human, was something that is very rare, just think about it, 50 mill years of evolution, and we are the first in so long to evolve superior brains.

Evolving was something random, the environment the species live in is what determine what gets to stay and what doesn't and because of this, better evolution get to become better, and bad ones, get wiped out.


Homo erectus is human, it can't evolve into what it already is. And your second statement is what is called natural selection, those that could adapt to the change survived. Those that couldn't died. That isn't evolution.

Guluere wrote:What if I told you, that believing in god was because of evolution.


I would say that your statement explains the completely asinine suggestions you make.
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