Recruitment for Ayes of Avonmora

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Re: Recruitment for Ayes of Avonmora

Postby DezNutz » Thu May 18, 2017 6:14 pm

Feniks wrote:
Bmw wrote:
Xxtaylorxx wrote::D :D :D :D You cried to my guild leader, you cried to the admin and now you cry here! :D :D :D :D
@ Walks away laughing @


if you call that crying you should see Wolfie.


LOL


Well I can say she did not come to me to me about any of this. She has never solicited me about any response. I do not think she solicited anyone in TNP about any of this. We saw her lit and asked what was going on.

I understand both..... well actually all three sides in this conflict. What USA needs to understand is this. 40 mill for influence and 10 conspiracy is a HUGE amount of support to a nation from someone who has only been playing for 3 months. It probably represented close to 100% of her reserves. How does that compare to someone who has sailed the seas of Avonmora for 1 year....2 ..... or more. While those on the council may have invested 5 or even 10 times that amount in gc and voodoo, they are much more equipped to deal with that type of investment. Spending 100 mill-200 mill by someone that has sailed for 1-2 years compared to around 50 mill for someone that basically just started the game.

Most nations relish getting even a fraction of this type of support from a new player.

Same old story, equity v. equality.

Taylor overreacted, absolutely, but so did USA council.



First, US National Policy is to communicate with guild leaders on nation related issues concerning guild members. The US does not want to escalate an issue with a single player into a Guild War. It's called diplomacy, but if you want to call it crying, by all means.

Secondly, clicking the report abuse button, because you are spamming 15 new topics in the nation forums repeating the same, "Nation Is Dead, Leave", "Malachi Left Because of the Council, you should too" crap, is also not crying. But if you want to call it that, ok.

Thirdly, I would enjoy to hear how the USA Council overreacted? Spending mass amounts of turns, other voodoo besides conspiracy, and millions of GC were the contributing factors for the first payout. A second payout for those who weren't part of the first payout was discussed. Her contributions while appreciated by the council were considered not sufficient for the first payout. However, after she made a complaint and to address her issues, I made the concession that I would reimburse her from my payout and would not seek further payout on the issue. This wasn't enough for her. She than started accusing the council and then tried to pull Malachi who has been inactive for some time into it. There is more than sufficient conversation that I would dump here for everyone to see to show that we were well within being reasonable in accommodating her complaint, but I can't do that without consent of the other party.

Finally, I wouldn't use the she is a new player crap. She had more than 200 ships and they weren't just howkers. Yes she may have used all of her reserves, but that was here choice. There was no discussion of reimbursement until after the port was taken back. Her choice to use all of her gc and to use the excuse I used all my money is not the council's fault. If the council decided against restitution and no one got anything, it would still be her fault for not ensuring that some gc remained in reserve. However, the council did decide to provide levels of restitution. She just wasn't included in the first round, and sat in the same boat with other council members who contributed but not enough to be part of the first round of payout.
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Re: Recruitment for Ayes of Avonmora

Postby Banger » Thu May 18, 2017 6:22 pm

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Re: Recruitment for Ayes of Avonmora

Postby sXs » Thu May 18, 2017 6:38 pm

Sorry..... taking conversation out of forum here.
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Re: Recruitment for Ayes of Avonmora

Postby PFH » Thu May 18, 2017 6:48 pm

Gildezarem wrote:Hello, players of Avonmora,

Today and the days to come, Ayes of Avomora [AYES] is now recruiting players, such as yourself! We rank amongst the top guilds in Avonmora and we have quite the veteran players here, such as Stan Rogers, Danik, Slindur, and more! As Mariner of the Ayes of Avonmora, I wish you, reader and respected player, to join our guild! We provide multiple benefits, including tricks to gold trading, advice for influence, tips and teachings on plundering for fame, and much more! We need new players among us, and YOU could be that player! :y

Before you get excited, let me point out our basic policy we have within our guild.

Our most important and basic policy is that we are a NO FIRST CAST guild, which means if YOU cast on ANOTHER PLAYER, then we will not back you up for what comes at you as a result of the cast. The only time you may cast is if you get cast on first. This will allow you to cast 10 fold upon the first caster.

Aside from this, we want YOU to join us! I mentioned only a few of the overabundance of benefits that come with us. Would you like to be a part of this? Join us today! xD :P

If you are interested, pop me a letter. My ID is #66509

:beer

Sincerely,
Gildezarem and Ayes of Avonmora

I thought this was a recruitment page and not a conspiracy/nation talk about crying. My mistake xD :D
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Re: Recruitment for Ayes of Avonmora

Postby xxTaaaaylorxx » Thu May 18, 2017 6:49 pm

I find your incessant crying hilarious. :D :D :D I refuse to discuss business in an open forum :P :P But in your noble only section (the one I am not allowed to see) you said and I quote......

" You don't, we aren't bending over backwards for anyone.
Contrary to what my statements may say, those are all within
the confines of what we set up as a Nation after the civil war.
Nothing I'm offering her is outside of what we said we would do.
She is in for a rude awakening once my payout is received.


I have said all I need to, this was just to prove you are a liar, like I said.
As for the money there was over 130m spent on your attacks on me.
Add to that the price of influence and TI to bring your population back up
and it would have been cheaper to pay me. It also would not have cut into your Kleenex backbone!!! :P :P :P :P ;) :chest

Now back to somewhere I do not need neck high wading boots.
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Re: Recruitment for Ayes of Avonmora

Postby PFH » Thu May 18, 2017 6:55 pm

Gildezarem wrote:Hello, players of Avonmora,

Today and the days to come, Ayes of Avomora [AYES] is now recruiting players, such as yourself! We rank amongst the top guilds in Avonmora and we have quite the veteran players here, such as Stan Rogers, Danik, Slindur, and more! As Mariner of the Ayes of Avonmora, I wish you, reader and respected player, to join our guild! We provide multiple benefits, including tricks to gold trading, advice for influence, tips and teachings on plundering for fame, and much more! We need new players among us, and YOU could be that player! :y

Before you get excited, let me point out our basic policy we have within our guild.

Our most important and basic policy is that we are a NO FIRST CAST guild, which means if YOU cast on ANOTHER PLAYER, then we will not back you up for what comes at you as a result of the cast. The only time you may cast is if you get cast on first. This will allow you to cast 10 fold upon the first caster.

Aside from this, we want YOU to join us! I mentioned only a few of the overabundance of benefits that come with us. Would you like to be a part of this? Join us today! xD :P

If you are interested, pop me a letter. My ID is #66509

:beer

Sincerely,
Gildezarem and Ayes of Avonmora

I quote this for a reason. Lol please stop with the bickering over nation problems on a guild recruitment page :D
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Re: Recruitment for Ayes of Avonmora

Postby xxTaaaaylorxx » Thu May 18, 2017 7:03 pm

Then please keep nation related questions off the table. You do have a forum to ask why I was posting topics. It is not here, but you had to give him an opening to cry or he would have been mad at you.
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Re: Recruitment for Ayes of Avonmora

Postby PFH » Thu May 18, 2017 7:11 pm

But I didn't ask for an argument. Just asked why it happened.
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Re: Recruitment for Ayes of Avonmora

Postby sXs » Thu May 18, 2017 7:19 pm

Hmmmmm seems USA has a Trump administration style leak in its council. "An anonymous source stated...."

Maybe it is time for Avonmora to have it's own version of Wikileaks. The question is, will they blame it on the Russians.
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Re: Recruitment for Ayes of Avonmora

Postby DezNutz » Thu May 18, 2017 7:41 pm

Feniks wrote:Hmmmmm seems USA has a Trump administration style leak in its council. "An anonymous source stated...."

Maybe it is time for Avonmora to have it's own version of Wikileaks. The question is, will they blame it on the Russians.


LOL, spying occurs in the game, as well once she reached the rank of Baron she would have been able to see what I wrote anyway. She can interpret that anyway she wants.
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