Spaniard Chronicles Edition 1

[Bmw]

I am going way out on a limb here and say if you offered to make an attempt to pay a set amount over a period of time and threw in the towel, you would be left with 2 ports that although extremely weak, would still be in your possession and able to recover in time.
The refusal to acknowledge the wrongs the nation did is like the guy who comes up on parole and will not accept responsibility for his crimes and blames someone else despite being found guilty of the crime.

Offer what they want and define terms for repayment. If you honor the agreement, you might end up farther ahead in the long run with a nation to work with.
Continued refusal to accept the responsibility will result in the total destruction of any ability to recover and the loss of the ports of which already happened a few weeks ago. Only thing that did not change was the color of the flag.

we accepted the responsibility and were working on negotiating and then danik and LT didint like what we had agreed on so they went and screwed up the nation

Edit: currently if we were to start paying that im pretty sure that danik and LT still wouldint leave there sucking the gold out of the treasury and sending it to inactives and why to them it just goes to waist just wait it out and you would have gotten paid but you took matters into your own hands before we could finish negotiations

[Stan Rogers]

we accepted the responsibility and were working on negotiating and then danik and LT didint like what we had agreed on so they went and screwed up the nation

I have never experienced LT or Danik to renege on an agreement or deal. Perhaps they did not agree to what the USA council had agreed to which in that case, the process must start over with new proposals. Agreements must be 'agreed' to by all concerned not just one side or group.

[DezNutz]

we accepted the responsibility and were working on negotiating and then danik and LT didint like what we had agreed on so they went and screwed up the nation

I have never experienced LT or Danik to renege on an agreement or deal. Perhaps they did not agree to what the USA council had agreed to which in that case, the process must start over with new proposals. Agreements must be 'agreed' to by all concerned not just one side or group.

You are correct that both sides must agree for an agreement to work out; however, as neither Danik nor LT were within the Leadership of Spain with which the deal was being made, they have no say in the terms of the agreement. If I'm working out an agreement between me and you, Joe Blow down the street doesn't have a say on the conditions of our agreement. His input or whether he likes the agreement or not is irrelevant.

[Stan Rogers]

we accepted the responsibility and were working on negotiating and then danik and LT didint like what we had agreed on so they went and screwed up the nation

I have never experienced LT or Danik to renege on an agreement or deal. Perhaps they did not agree to what the USA council had agreed to which in that case, the process must start over with new proposals. Agreements must be 'agreed' to by all concerned not just one side or group.

Unless Danik and LT were part of the leadership of Spain, they have no say in the agreement process.

So I would assume from that statement, USA does not acknowledge it attacked Mexico. That is the problem right there !
Until that happens, USA will never recover. Soon it will be too late.

[TheLoveTiger]

we accepted the responsibility and were working on negotiating and then danik and LT didint like what we had agreed on so they went and screwed up the nation

I have never experienced LT or Danik to renege on an agreement or deal. Perhaps they did not agree to what the USA council had agreed to which in that case, the process must start over with new proposals. Agreements must be 'agreed' to by all concerned not just one side or group.

You are correct that both sides must agree for an agreement to work out; however, as neither Danik nor LT were within the Leadership of Spain with which the deal was being made, they have no say in the terms of the agreement. If I'm working out an agreement between me and you, Joe Blow down the street doesn't have a say on the conditions of our agreement. His input or whether he likes the agreement or not is irrelevant.

That is exactly the point, you reached an agreement with Spain, but you never reached or made even a solid attempt with Mexico.

[Grapefruit]

As many new players join with the usa as their flag I am worried about the affect this conflict is having on them.
I would hate to think that potential new players were being put off the game by finding themselves immediately in the middle of a civil war.
So please for the good of the game take the money and run, you could do with the exercise.

[DezNutz]

So I would assume from that statement, USA does not acknowledge it attacked Mexico. That is the problem right there !
Until that happens, USA will never recover. Soon it will be too late.

So was it just nation members being attacked or did Mexico have a port they controlled. I don't recall seeing a port under Mexico's control during this scrum. And if they did, who controls the port now?

Either answer just shows how pathetic Danik and LT are. They either lost a port and couldn't regain it by themselves, or they got attacked and couldn't punch back militarily. So they switch nations after the main player who led this was banned from the game and act like they are some great force to be reckoned with. Sounds like some serious butthurt.

And as I said before, there is no such thing as too late in a game where one can put in real money in turn for game benefits.

[Most Lee Harmless]

So I would assume from that statement, USA does not acknowledge it attacked Mexico. That is the problem right there !
Until that happens, USA will never recover. Soon it will be too late.

So was it just nation members being attacked or did Mexico have a port they controlled. I don't recall seeing a port under Mexico's control during this scrum. And if they did, who controls the port now?

Either answer just shows how pathetic Danik and LT are. They either lost a port and couldn't regain it by themselves, or they got attacked and couldn't punch back militarily. So they switch nations after the main player who led this was banned from the game and act like they are some great force to be reckoned with. Sounds like some serious butthurt.

And as I said before, there is no such thing as too late in a game where one can put in real money in turn for game benefits.

And that's the level of insight we are facing : 'Did you even have a port?'...

[Bmw]

if you had a port its not usa's fault that you lost it look who its owned by now

[Stan Rogers]

So was it just nation members being attacked or did Mexico have a port they controlled. I don't recall seeing a port under Mexico's control during this scrum. And if they did, who controls the port now?

Either answer just shows how pathetic Danik and LT are. They either lost a port and couldn't regain it by themselves, or they got attacked and couldn't punch back militarily. So they switch nations after the main player who led this was banned from the game and act like they are some great force to be reckoned with. Sounds like some serious butthurt.

And as I said before, there is no such thing as too late in a game where one can put in real money in turn for game benefits.

1. Yes, Mexico had a port.
2. Yes, USA attacked it as well as the king of Mexico at the time completely unprovoked and unwarranted as well as hired the Merc crew to assist.
3. Mexico was unable to fight the war and win with a port under their control so sold the port to Egypt.
Mexico demands repayment for its hardships or USA will also lose its ports.

Seems very simple to me but if you fail to see it, you deserve to lose everything and that is all I will say about the current situation