same old stan

[Leo]

Someone hasn't watched the day after. Or watership down. Or full metal jacket. Not a single thing can justify mass killing especially when the people that start the wars never fight in them

[Dmanwuzhere]

Someone hasn't watched the day after. Or watership down. Or full metal jacket. Not a single thing can justify mass killing especially when the people that start the wars never fight in them

I watched Rambo so sue me.

What year did the events of the day after the bunny book and full metal jacket involve a real war that included a mass killing in our history?


Have you watched all Leos go to hell or Leos s**k or all Leos are pedos not a single Leo can be justified to live... kill them all


basically, that's what you just did
what a lazy and uninformative argument

[Lil Lola]

Leo we come from a volatile planet. I do not know why anyone would think we would behave different then what we come from.

[Meliva]

Someone hasn't watched the day after. Or watership down. Or full metal jacket. Not a single thing can justify mass killing especially when the people that start the wars never fight in them

I'm well aware that war is tragic. Fictional movies or stories are not needed for me to understand that. You however, are incredibly naive if you think just because you don't think anything can justify mass killings, that must mean nothing can justify mass killings period. Different people are different Leo. To some people, they are justified killing you because you aren't the same religion as them. Or you are an American and killing you is justified. Do you think Hitler thought what he was doing wasn't justified in his eyes? Again Leo, most people, don't do things, especially don't do hard and difficult or horrible things, unless they have a reason to do it. Now, it might be a dumb or stupid reason to everyone but them, but it's a reason none the less.

Hell, maybe they decide anyone wearing orange deserves to be killed. Or just think, killing is fun, so why not? Maybe they hate life in general and wanna cause suffering to others.

Likewise, people join the military for various reasons. The benefits maybe, to serve their country, curiosity, boredom, maybe they just want a legal way to kill who knows.

The world is not a safe and peaceful place Leo. There are monstrous people out there, there are violent people out there, and there are people who wish harm and death upon those they do not like, and ultimately, in order for you to survive, something else has to die. Life is just a big cycle of birth, survival then death. Most creatures will do what it takes to survive the best they can-if that means something or someone else has to die, most will prioritize their lives over others. War is just one group, prioritizing their needs and wants over another's.

[Leo]

I mean I don't know how it's that deep. War is no longer people with muskets lining up and shooting each other. It's real shit now, with WMDs that can eliminate half the population in a single detonation. War will likely be the end of our civilization, so why should anyone agree with it? Do you think we all deserve to die? Even those that had no part in the conflict whatsoever? And it wouldn't only hurt humans, it would hurt every living thing on earth. All it takes is one guy to press the button and everyone dies. All humans, all animals, all trees and all plants. Maybe the roaches would survive. Tens of thousands of years after we wipe existence off the face of the earth, new life would begin to form, and things could return to normal. The best we could hope for then is an intelligent species who isn't self destructive to evolve. And you say I'm naive. wars, hot or cold, in this age with such powerful weapons, is playing with the possibility of total and final destruction of everything. All for some stupid quarrel over territory or resources or whatever. Like I said, nothing can justify it

[Meliva]

yeah, you really don't know a damn thing .

Wiping out half the population in a single detonation? What world are you living in? No nuke is that damn powerful, hell even the Tsar Bomba, the BIGGEST nuke ever, wouldn't even be enough to wipe out a whole country's population, unless it was some small tiny one somewhere densely packed like Vatican city.

and wiping out all life? Again, even if every nuke on earth right now was used, unless they specifically tried to cover every spot possible they could and not just actual military targets or cities, it wouldn't get anywhere close to wiping out all life. You realize how big the oceans are right? How deep they are? The closest life has ever came to going extinct was the great dying. And I can promise you, humanity isn't able to do that level of damage.

Doesn't matter if we deserve to die. We're going to. That's a fact. That's life. You're born. You live. You die. There were living beings before us. There will most likely be living beings after us. Every civilization that comes into existence will eventually fade and crumble and die. Every monument will eventually break down and be forgotten. War may be the end of us. It may not. I don't know, but I do know, that we all will die sooner or later. So, enjoy life while you can. Don't worry so much about what if's. What if tomorrow a meteor wipes us all out. What if tomorrow aliens enslave us. What if tomorrow nuclear war breaks out? Well all would be horrible things, which none of us could do a darn thing about. War is just another part of life. Even animals go to war with eachother. Look up the chimpanzee wars. We're just better at it then them.

[Leo]

Clearly you have not seen both the nukes and the hydrogen bombs that are being kept. We also don't know what other countries have/are working on. What we do know is that even the bombs that went off in Hiroshima and Nagasaki are still radiating to this day and the radiation has spread most of the way around the globe. The ones today are over 3 times as powerful. Even if the initial blast didn't destroy more than a city the entire region would become sick with radiation poisoning and many would die, the rest would have terrible birth defects and eventually die out as well. Then, the radiation spreads and makes everywhere much less inhabitable for a very very long time. You should check out what's happening in Japan and how their fishing industry has gone belly up due to most of the fish being too radioactive to eat. After almost 100 years, there are still side effects of the bomb. Imagine what one 3 times the size would do. Also not to mention, if one country launches one, others will follow. There is no way for someone to not be alerted that a nuke has been launched, the other country will always find out and launch their own. So if one gets deployed, multiple get deployed. Who knows how many. We have thousands on earth. Even one is enough to destroy regions and make life worse for everyone on earth.

[Meliva]

Oh, and you have seen these nukes? Does your uncle work at Nintendo too? Let me guess, you've gone on special tours to military bases and your secret lovers with an unknown 6 star general who tells you about the super mega nukes the US has that can wipe out galaxies? If not, and you haven't seen these nukes either, then you're literally just making crap up in your imagination. What you're gonna tell me about the death lasers the US has in satellites next?

A single detonation cannot wipe out half the population. You are completely insane or just plain stupid if you actually believe there is a nuke of that caliber I mean for fox sake, the russians literally made the Tsar Bomba 50 megatons instead of 100 because they were worried about it punching a hole in the ozone layer. Plus, 3 times stronger? Boy, don't talk about crap you clearly don't know jack crap about! I'm no expert on the subject, but even I know that most modern nukes are at least dozens if not hundreds times stronger then the ones used in ww2 hell the Tsar Bomba, AGAIN the biggest nuke ever tested was thousands of times stronger. half the population didn't drop dead from it. And to say that radiation from the nukes in ww2 have spread through most of the earth? Are you one drugs or something? I mean, maybe like super trace amounts that are harmless, but at that point, it's not even an anything to talk about. You realize that radiation in small doses isn't really that bad right? That's what they use in cancer treatments. Or xrays. Hell bananas technically are slightly radioactive, you ever drop dead eating one?

A nuke's radiation really only impacts the local area. There's a reason why after we nuked japan, the ones who suffered were the people who survived the blast. None of the radiation did any damage to America.

Please, before you go spouting these inane thoughts, do a quick google check to make sure you're not spewing a bunch of crap. There's no real excuse to be this ignorant while acting like you know better. This is just depressing man.

[Meliva]

also Leo, I just did a quick google search just to verify.

Does Nagasaki still have radiation?
AI Overview
No, Nagasaki does not have dangerous levels of radiation today; radiation levels have returned to normal background levels, safe for human habitation.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
Initial Radiation:
Following the atomic bombing, residual radiation was present, but it decayed rapidly.
Current Levels:
Today, radiation levels in Nagasaki are comparable to the natural background radiation found worldwide and are considered safe.
Reasons for Safety:
The bombs were detonated high above the ground, leading to minimal ground contamination and rapid decay of most radioactive materials.
Long-term Effects:
While the bombings caused immense suffering and long-term health effects, the radiation levels themselves are no longer a significant concern.


Took me 5 seconds. That's it. I don't know about these japanese fishing problems, but didn't they have a nuclear reactor disaster after ww2? Feel like that's more likely the cause then the nukes.



Edit-
Again, just looked it up. The fish that was radioctive was from a nuclear power plant incident, not the nukes back in ww2. Again. This took me a simple google search. Leo, do me and yourself a favor, and the next time you want to make a claim, take just, 5 seconds. 5 seconds to google it to make sure you are not spewing a load of crap.

[Lachlan]

There is an allegation from Tucker Carlson that Ukraine has been selling some of our provided weapons on the black market
I want to see how that accusation turns out
I mean it is obvious Zedumsky wants the money to keep coming in but selling our aid on the market could lead to some nasty stuff

Seriously you believe stuff that puppet says? He is so pro-Russian he is willing to make a multitude of false statements regarding Ukraine while only saying good things about Russia. There is a reason why he is one of a dwindling number of western journalists inside Russia. He's a Putin ally. I'm also sad that you buy into the conspiracy theory that there were secret labs in Ukraine. It shocks me to see Americans like you who at least from most of your comments seem to support Russia (more) a country who invaded one if it's neighbors and started one of the most major wars since WW2 compared to Ukraine the country that was actually invaded in 2014 and then again in 2022.

And China didn't have labs funded with US dollars either... it was all above board just another Biological Threat Reduction Program right?
There's no way it would be used to create viruses that our "enemy" would be in control of... right?
I mean, if we let our enemy do that, we certainly wouldn't let our allies, right? Especially neighboring the Democrat's favorite boogieman.
Well, the following is from our embassy there soooooooo... nope no USA-funded labs in Ukraine. Glad you set me straight

United States of America, Department of State
U.S. Embassy in Ukraine
|
Notice: Assistance for Ukrainians Evacuated to Poland Assistance in Poland...
[Skip to Content]
Visas


U.S. Citizens Services

Our Relationship
Business
Education & Culture

Embassy



News & Events
Biological Threat Reduction Program
Home | Embassy | U.S. Embassy Kyiv | Sections & Offices | Defense Threat Reduction Office | Biological Threat Reduction Program
The U.S. Department of Defense’s Biological Threat Reduction Program collaborates with partner countries to counter the threat of outbreaks (deliberate, accidental, or natural) of the world’s most dangerous infectious diseases.  The program accomplishes its bio-threat reduction mission through development of a bio-risk management culture; international research partnerships; and partner capacity for enhanced bio-security, bio-safety, and bio-surveillance measures. The Biological Threat Reduction Program’s priorities in Ukraine are to consolidate and secure pathogens and toxins of security concern and to continue to ensure Ukraine can detect and report outbreaks caused by dangerous pathogens before they pose security or stability threats.

What is it exactly you are trying to say? I'm confused as to what you are saying. Australia has labs which are used for disease research. Are you saying just because we have labs that are capable of doing research on diseases that means we produce biological weapons or research them? From what I understand you have no evidence of labs that produce biological weapons, just that Ukraine has labs and maybe some were partially funded by NATO countries. It's not unusual for countries to cooperate in building infrastructure and other such things.