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Adjusting to a new president

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:14 pm
by Maha

Re: Adjusting to a new president

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:26 pm
by Most Lee Harmless
I laughed at it. But then, it is very hard to take a man with that kind of hair seriously : most leaders have those bullet-proof screens to save them from bullets : he needs them to stop the wind stealing his wig.

Re: Adjusting to a new president

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:56 pm
by Donald Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yxFWy7DxJA - People destroying buildings in DC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m1CI0FQJuI - Trump Tower protest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EHb_4Y7QYc - Massive protest in Washington
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vAfF3hr6fM - Protest with fire


It seems like the people are really happy!


This inauguration was probably one of the most chaotic is American history. The amount of riots nation wide was massive.

Re: Adjusting to a new president

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:14 am
by Maha
DoS wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yxFWy7DxJA - People destroying buildings in DC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m1CI0FQJuI - Trump Tower protest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EHb_4Y7QYc - Massive protest in Washington
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vAfF3hr6fM - Protest with fire


It seems like the people are really happy!


This inauguration was probably one of the most chaotic is American history. The amount of riots nation wide was massive.

and with this 'reaction' the USA became a banana republic where democracy is just a hollow word and might becomes right. according to USA voting regulations DJT is the elected president. What can be the possible outcome of this protest? a coup? if it keeps escalating the government has to install martial law to restore law and order. disorder not caused by the president but by those who oppose them.

i am worried by DJT's speech, but how USA citizens allow their country to disintegrate is even scarier. DJT was and is an outsider in the rep. party, congress can counter him but only when the republicans aren't forced to join DJT by the mobbing democrats .

Re: Adjusting to a new president

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:25 am
by Meliva
honestly rioting is by far one of the most idiotic and foolish things a group of people can do. it accomplishes nothing but damage, damage which, can often cause businesses to close or relocate, thereby causing many people to lose jobs, and therefore be unable to support themselves or family, which often may lead to stealing to survive, damaging the economy more. I mean for goodness sakes, the buildings and local property are not to blame for DJT getting elected so why attack them. its like a toddler throwing a hissy fit for not getting a toy they wanted. absolutely childish.

Re: Adjusting to a new president

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:36 am
by Bmw
Meliva wrote:honestly rioting is by far one of the most idiotic and foolish things a group of people can do. it accomplishes nothing but damage, damage which, can often cause businesses to close or relocate, thereby causing many people to lose jobs, and therefore be unable to support themselves or family, which often may lead to stealing to survive, damaging the economy more. I mean for goodness sakes, the buildings and local property are not to blame for DJT getting elected so why attack them. its like a toddler throwing a hissy fit for not getting a toy they wanted. absolutely childish.


the exact difference between today's smart populace and the dumb one's.

Re: Adjusting to a new president

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:48 am
by Donald Trump
Meliva wrote:honestly rioting is by far one of the most idiotic and foolish things a group of people can do. it accomplishes nothing but damage, damage which, can often cause businesses to close or relocate, thereby causing many people to lose jobs, and therefore be unable to support themselves or family, which often may lead to stealing to survive, damaging the economy more. I mean for goodness sakes, the buildings and local property are not to blame for DJT getting elected so why attack them. its like a toddler throwing a hissy fit for not getting a toy they wanted. absolutely childish.



I agree. I think that riot in the first link went way TOO far. I mean there were windows destroyed for no apparent reason. Just started smashing up Starbucks and Bank of America, because it was in DC.

But I strongly disagree with your point on riots. I think riots is something that can used for change. Take for example the French Revolution. You have a stupid king who cannot lead, 2 untaxed Estates, and 97% of the Population is dirt poor. You have a Prussian/Enemy Queen who has to wear a different dress everyday and shows negligence towards people starving.

Do I agree with the government that replaced the French Monarchy? NO it was god awful. The Republic turned into an extremist anti-Monarchy anti-French History and anti-Religious government.


But at the end of the day. Enlightenment ideals flourished and New England became America because of Napoleon.

And the Napoleonic Code was created that forever made France a better nation.

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Bottom line. riots are a necessity and a sign people do not agree. I 100% support rational riots. I think the people have the right to destroy, vandalize, and burn a dead government that threw them overboard many years ago for a new one to take place.

But, I think this riot was not justified. Because the government is not doomed by any means.

Re: Adjusting to a new president

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:54 am
by Meliva
DoS wrote:
Meliva wrote:honestly rioting is by far one of the most idiotic and foolish things a group of people can do. it accomplishes nothing but damage, damage which, can often cause businesses to close or relocate, thereby causing many people to lose jobs, and therefore be unable to support themselves or family, which often may lead to stealing to survive, damaging the economy more. I mean for goodness sakes, the buildings and local property are not to blame for DJT getting elected so why attack them. its like a toddler throwing a hissy fit for not getting a toy they wanted. absolutely childish.



I agree. I think that riot in the first link went way TOO far. I mean there were windows destroyed for no apparent reason. Just started smashing up Starbucks and Bank of America, because it was in DC.

But I strongly disagree with your point on riots. I think riots is something that can used for change. Take for example the French Revolution. You have a stupid king who cannot lead, 2 untaxed Estates, and 97% of the Population is dirt poor. You have a Prussian/Enemy Queen who has to wear a different dress everyday and shows negligence towards people starving.

Do I agree with the government that replaced the French Monarchy? NO it was god awful. The Republic turned into an extremist anti-Monarchy anti-French History and anti-Religious government.


But at the end of the day. Enlightenment ideals flourished and New England became America because of Napoleon.

And the Napoleonic Code was created that forever made France a better nation.

--------

Bottom line. riots are a necessity and a sign people do not agree. I 100% support rational riots. I think the people have the right to destroy, vandalize, and burn a dead government for a new one to take place.

But, I think this riot was not justified. Because the government is not doomed by any means.


in my opinion, violence should be a last resort. look at Gandi and MLK, both of them accomplished many things non violently. now sometimes violence is the only method that will work, but even then, you need to use it against the right target. lets say hypothetically, DJT does end up as bad as hitler and starts attempting genocide, like some people seem to think he will, in a case like that, then yeah violence would probably be the best solution, but don't go burning down banks and starbucks, go after the actual problem.

Re: Adjusting to a new president

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:57 am
by Donald Trump
Again I 100% said this riot was not justified by any means. It was pure hysteria.


But riots in general vary. MLK and Ghandi were great men who established reforms through peace.

But sometimes, peace is not the way to go. When an oppressive or totalitarian dictatorship is in charge (The French Revolution was around the time of Absolute Monarchy), there is no way to peacefully get rid of the people in charge.

Re: Adjusting to a new president

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:01 am
by Meliva
DoS wrote:Again I 100% said this riot was not justified by any means. It was pure hysteria.


But riots in general vary. MLK and Ghandi were great men who established reforms through peace.

But sometimes, peace is not the way to go. When an oppressive or totalitarian dictatorship is in charge (The French Revolution was around the time of Absolute Monarchy), there is no way to peacefully get rid of the people in charge.


I agree with you that peace isn't always the way to go, but violence should always be a last resort, when peaceful means fail.