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Re: The young people of the day

Postby Windy » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:42 pm

Its not flawed. Its a reliable site.
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Re: The young people of the day

Postby sXs » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:48 pm

Not the website itself, the analysis of the data. Read my post again.... and again..... and again, to understand. 60-75 of all police interaction are with black people while they make up only 13% of the population. So 6 to 7 of ever 10 times police are called in the 26 counties, URBAN counties, the are responding to an incident involving a black person. Even though 60-75% of all those calls involve black people only 26% of those killed by bpolice are black.

If the narrative were true as the media wants you to believe, then 60-75% of all police involved shootings would have black victims. The number should be almost 3 times higher than it is if this whole thing were true.

Again, don't let the facts get in the way of your emotions..... geesh.
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Re: The young people of the day

Postby sXs » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:52 pm

Lord dartmoor wrote:Its not flawed. Its a reliable site.


Yup, it is on the internet so it must be true

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Re: The young people of the day

Postby Meliva » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:53 pm

Dart cops don't kill blacks for no reason. They rarely kill anyone for NO reason, just because they were not doing anything illegal, or were not armed does NOT mean they had no reason to shoot. Let provide you an example. Lets say a cop gets a report that a young suspicious person who appears to be armed is in a neighbor hood. The cop goes there and sees a young man who fits the description. The cop gets out and tell him to put his hands up and get on the ground. He reaches towards his pocket. The cop remembering that the suspect was said to appear to be armed, immediately takes his gun out and fires first. Then it turns out the gun was a toy. Do you think the cop was in the wrong to shoot that young man? For all he knew, the gun was real and he could have died. Or had the young man done as he was told he wouldn't have gotten shot. You cant blame cops for killing someone if they felt they were a threat, and were not doing as they were told. I'm willing to bet 99% of those who die, didn't do as the cops said. And so its usually their own damn faults they get shot.
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Re: The young people of the day

Postby Meliva » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:58 pm

Let me also tell you something my father told me and my siblings growing up. When dealing with cops, DO what they say as soon as they say it, be polite, if they ask you a question be honest, say Yes Sir, or Yes ma'am, and don't make any sudden movements. I always did exactly that whenever I was interacting with law enforcement and I have NEVER been tased, shot, or maced. One of my brothers though, Didn't do that when he was dealing with law enforcement, and guess what? he was tazed twice in the chest and now has heart problems. Do I blame the cops for his heart problems? NO. what my brother did was stupid, and the cops did what they thought was best.
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Re: The young people of the day

Postby sXs » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:19 pm

Here is another gem for you to consider.

The FBI’s Law Enforcement Officers Killed and Assaulted program tracks the deaths of officers who were on duty, or acting in an official manner while off duty. The FBI publishes annual reports breaking down the figure in two ways: accidents and “felonious incidents,” which are deaths as a result of a criminal act. Felonious incidents include ambushes, traffic pursuits, responding to domestic disturbances or delivering search warrants.

"There were 511 police officers killed in felonious incidents and 540 offenders from 2004 to 2013, according to FBI reports. Among the total offenders, 52 percent were white, and 43 percent were black."

43% were black, yet blacks only make up 13% of the population.
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Re: The young people of the day

Postby Meliva » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:29 pm

Feniks wrote:Here is another gem for you to consider.

The FBI’s Law Enforcement Officers Killed and Assaulted program tracks the deaths of officers who were on duty, or acting in an official manner while off duty. The FBI publishes annual reports breaking down the figure in two ways: accidents and “felonious incidents,” which are deaths as a result of a criminal act. Felonious incidents include ambushes, traffic pursuits, responding to domestic disturbances or delivering search warrants.

"There were 511 police officers killed in felonious incidents and 540 offenders from 2004 to 2013, according to FBI reports. Among the total offenders, 52 percent were white, and 43 percent were black."

43% were black, yet blacks only make up 13% of the population.


And since whites make up about 65% of the population that essentially means, that the white offender percentage is about 15% lower, while the black offender percentage is 30% higher. That is an INCREDIBLY big difference.
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Re: The young people of the day

Postby Mack » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:40 pm

Feniks wrote:Not the website itself, the analysis of the data. Read my post again.... and again..... and again, to understand. 60-75 of all police interaction are with black people while they make up only 13% of the population. So 6 to 7 of ever 10 times police are called in the 26 counties, URBAN counties, the are responding to an incident involving a black person. Even though 60-75% of all those calls involve black people only 26% of those killed by bpolice are black.

If the narrative were true as the media wants you to believe, then 60-75% of all police involved shootings would have black victims. The number should be almost 3 times higher than it is if this whole thing were true.

Again, don't let the facts get in the way of your emotions..... geesh.



In other words, they are responsible for 60 to 75 out of every 100 crimes the police responded to. Now out of that majority number if crimes they were still only 13 out of every 100 peoples out there able to commmit crimes... that means they are way more likely to interact with a cop to begin with, do to the fact they commit more crimes per capita.. though in these said counties. They only make up 26 out of every 100 people killled by police.. to me this says cops are scared to shoot black people, probably due to posible accusations thay could be made.
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Re: The young people of the day

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:55 pm

'60-75 of all police interaction are with black people while they make up only 13% of the population.'

More black criminals? Or more chance a black person will be stopped, searched, questioned and a 'crime report' will then arise from the 'interaction'?

More logic ? : as 60-75% of interactions involve black people, then 60-75% of police shootings should involve a black victim : or an equally valid interpretation : Police routinely 'interact' with more black people for minor matters which involve no violence where-as they will mainly 'interact' with white people when severe or mortal violence is involved.

26 out of 100 people shot by police are black but they are only 13% of the population : well, what can this mean : in an 'interaction' with police you are twice as likely to be shot if you are black? But, black people seemingly, by your logic, commit 4 times the amount of crime.. so.. actually, black criminals are far less violent and thus less likely to provoke a shooting. No? Conversely, white people are more violent and thus are involved in a higher percentage of shootings for the level of crime they commit, apparently.

So, what do your figures actually prove? Well, they prove everything you say, and none of it : depends which way you slant them.
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Re: The young people of the day

Postby Stede Bonnet » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:01 pm

But the prime thing to consider is that 13% is the whole black population in America; while 6.5% is the male black population in America, who are causing this disproportionate crime level. I personally think that it is caused not by Racism today, but Racism of the past. When Blacks came north, post the Abolitionists, the settled into sections of the cities that would one day become Ghetto's. During the 1950's-1960's during the wave of people buying their own houses in "The American Dream", Black's were unable to leave those Ghetto's because they were blocked from moving into a "white neighborhood". All the while we had the Civil Right's movement, and general lessening of the grip of Racism. We went from having them as slaves to having the live in our Ghetto's, to giving them the opportunity to leave those Ghetto's.

I wouldn't say we live in a "post-racism" world. I think that every generation gets a little bit better regarding Racism. The only thing that brakes that lessening of thinking in terms of race is when people get all preachy regarding certain factors of "living black in America". It's the reason for more and more people today desiring to just stop talking about racism if they want it to go away.
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