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Re: The young people of the day

Postby Meliva » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:41 am

Homer wrote:there have been white and red and olive people killed by police for no reason


Again, it is a VERY small minority who get killed by anyone for no reason. The police are not a bunch of pyscho killers always looking for more people to shoot, like so many seem to act like they are these days. These are men and women, many with families, who just like you or me are just trying to make a living. They help enforce the law and keep the law abiding citizens safe from those who would harm them. There are a few bad ones, I admit that just like there are bad people in every bloody group of people from the jews to the Buddhists, the blacks to the whites, the rich to the poor, and every thing in between. I really despise when people act like cops are just killers. Its a load of complete garbage.
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Re: The young people of the day

Postby Meliva » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:48 am

Well I think ive ranted enough. Sorry if it seems I was hostile to anyone, this is a subject that gets me rather heated. Just remember at the end of the day- EVERYONE is just human. We all have fears, doubts, and we all muck up from time to time. There are bad people in basically every group, and there are good people in basically every group. It is just stupid to label a whole group as one thing. Not all arabs are terrorist, not all jews are bankers, not all whites are racist, not all blacks are thugs and not all police are killers. There I go ranting again :D I'm done now for real. wont lecture anyone for a while. :D
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Re: The young people of the day

Postby Mack » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:54 am

Well i have to say this had more positive out come than i expected
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Re: The young people of the day

Postby Windy » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:31 pm

Though I'm not just talking about killings. Killings are rare but they do happen. But they're also suspected of crimes for walking down a street!!
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Re: The young people of the day

Postby Mack » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:46 pm

So are whte people i got frisked one time for standing on the sidewalk in front of my house.. they thought i was selling drugs

I ws only 15 by the way, it was late. I was just standing there nothing to do.. one car slowly driveing down the street towards me i was watching him like , who dis be crepin down my street, you know. Then two cars come from nowhere they all hop out guns at the ready.. get up against the fence they yell out NOW! with a digusted look on my face i did as i was told . They say you fit a discription of a fella dealin through here..
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Re: The young people of the day

Postby Mack » Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:43 pm

Homer wrote:In this case there are racist people EVERYWHERE! But to say the black race is opressed here in the United States Of America, is not true in most cases
. Im sure there are people that do deny them equal anything, but thats not the most of us thats a few of us. And it goes the other way around too, let a white girl walk into a.... anything in a gehtto, which in all reality thats what these thug football players are talking about. I wonder what could happen to said white girl... or a guy


Guess what its not just black people in the gehtto either
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Re: The young people of the day

Postby Meliva » Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:49 pm

Lord dartmoor wrote:Though I'm not just talking about killings. Killings are rare but they do happen. But they're also suspected of crimes for walking down a street!!


That also is not that common. And even then its not that big a deal. If they are not doing anything wrong, they just need to answer the cops questions, and do what the cop says and then they can carry on. If they are guilty of something then its a good thing a cop pulled them over. You act as if all cops are racist, or all cops have a prejudice against minorities which is not the case. I have said it multiple times and I will say it again. Cops are just people like you and me-trying to make a living to support themselves and their families. Some bad ones exist, just like plenty of bad people are in every group. Don't act as if cops are some evil group conspiring against minorities. Its a incredibly stupid way to think of them. Those who act as if cops are evil think about this- What would it be like if we had no cops? I can tell you- Crimes would happen almost nonstop, you would need to constantly worry that anyone you see is planning to rape, kill or steal from you.
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Re: The young people of the day

Postby Windy » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:48 pm

I'm not saying cops are evil. And sometimes things like that happen homer to anybody. But the amount of racism towards African Americans is great. And police brutality (not all) is alot higher on them than us.
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Re: The young people of the day

Postby Astragek » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:06 pm

But racism has always been there, and always will be. Just gotta make sure we're not part of it. I don't even go into discussion with racists any more. I just turn my other cheeck, but will still treat them like I would with any other humanbeing. But racism or discrimination doesn't just happen to minorities. It happens to white people too. Me for example, I'm Dutch and moved to Australia 5 years ago. And even though I'm as white as they come, some people still tell me to go back to my own country, just because of my accent. (Which is quite funny considering Australia has been taken over by white European countries). And people will always be prejudiced towards anything other than themselves. Mostly done unconsiously. We've all got stereotypes. Every race, every color, every particular groups. Just the way society works. It's up to each and every one of us, to make sure we don't act on that prejudice and treat everyone equal, no matter how hard that might be. I work in security, I get paid to judge people based on looks and behavior. But even though I have my suspicions with a person, I still walk up to that person and strike a normal conversation like I would with anyone else, and treat them with respect like I would with anyone else.
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Re: The young people of the day

Postby sXs » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:14 pm

Lord dartmoor wrote:I'm not saying cops are evil. And sometimes things like that happen homer to anybody. But the amount of racism towards African Americans is great. And police brutality (not all) is alot higher on them than us.


Actually you are wrong. According to FBI statistics and academic studies, this is false. You can not base the numbers simply on population. You need to base them on police interactions.

" Cops killed nearly twice as many whites as blacks in 2015. According to data compiled by The Washington Post, 50 percent of the victims of fatal police shootings were white, while 26 percent were black. The majority of these victims had a gun or "were armed or otherwise threatening the officer with potentially lethal force," according to Mac Donald in a speech at Hillsdale College."


These are not my words obviously, but when you break it down by police interactions and the race of the perpetrator, you are more than twice as likely to get shot if you are white.




Some may argue that these statistics are evidence of racist treatment toward blacks, since whites consist of 62 percent of the population and blacks make up 13 percent of the population. But as Mac Donald writes in The Wall Street Journal, 2009 statistics from the Bureau of Justice Statistics reveal that blacks were charged with 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the 75 biggest counties in the country, despite only comprising roughly 15 percent of the population in these counties.

"Such a concentration of criminal violence in minority communities means that officers will be disproportionately confronting armed and often resisting suspects in those communities, raising officers’ own risk of using lethal force," writes MacDonald.

MacDonald also pointed out in her Hillsdale speech that blacks "commit 75 percent of all shootings, 70 percent of all robberies, and 66 percent of all violent crime" in New York City, even though they consist of 23 percent of the city's population.

"The black violent crime rate would actually predict that more than 26 percent of police victims would be black," MacDonald said. "Officer use of force will occur where the police interact most often with violent criminals, armed suspects, and those resisting arrest, and that is in black neighborhoods."
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