The young people of the day

[Mack]

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder. "

This is why they kneel, out of colins mouth himself.

[sXs]

For those who agree these "protests" by the NFL players are legitimate, I have one question for you.

What race are these fallen heroes?

[Most Lee Harmless]

The protest is not aimed at those serving in the US military and never has been. But its an emotive issue easily conflated into a strawman to create discontent at the protests.

[sXs]

I am sorry, I disagree. If you protest the anthem or the flag, you are protesting all those that have fought and died for the country. You are protesting against the very system of government that allows you to protest in the first place, and the people who have fought and died to protect that very right.

You can not divorce the two.

[Most Lee Harmless]

You have to conflate the two to make your point ; thats the strawman .

A right you cant use is not a right at all : its a myth.

[Mack]

Look at these stats from 2015...

www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/nationa ... shootings/

[DezNutz]

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder. "

This is why they kneel, out of colins mouth himself.

Didn't he say that while wearing a Che shirt?

[Most Lee Harmless]

I'll take issue with another of your points, Feniks : the United States does not 'allow' the right of peaceful protest : its task is to protect and nurture it : to ensure it can be used : as with all the rights enshrined under its constitution. They are not negotiable, they are inalienable and exist as part of every citizens birthright. The 'Flag Code' which lays down how the Flag should be treated is advisory, a breach is not punishable, though some may consider it poor manners. Indeed, the Constitution itself, as interpreted by the Supreme Court, defends the right of a citizen to insult the flag, for whatever reason they choose.
So, which right do you take issue with : the right to salute, or the right to ignore : both are equally valid, lawful and 'right'.

[sXs]

You have to conflate the two to make your point ; thats the strawman .

A right you cant use is not a right at all : its a myth.

I never said they couldn't exercise their rights. I said it was ill planned and counter productive.

[Mack]

Look at these stats from 2015...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/ ... shootings/