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Re: Arabic Language

Postby Mohammed » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:29 pm

great topic and actually every language is confusing at first you just need to do a lot of work to learn it but if i have to compare English is definitely easier than Arabic
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Re: Arabic Language

Postby Sebena » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:56 pm

that's true english is one of the easiest languages to learn and can't be compared to english. I would compare it with Croatian because both languages are hard to learn and often people whom try to learn both languages need to invest much more time than if they want to learn english...
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Re: Arabic Language

Postby Meliva » Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:49 pm

Wolfie wrote:that's true english is one of the easiest languages to learn and can't be compared to english. I would compare it with Croatian because both languages are hard to learn and often people whom try to learn both languages need to invest much more time than if they want to learn english...


I am going to have to disagree with that. I was born and raised in the US and English is my native language, but it is not a very easy language to learn in my opinion. some of our rules on grammar and spelling are rather silly. for example plurals in English are rather strange. mouse becomes mice, but house becomes houses, moose is still moose, but goose becomes geese. Brian Regan( a comedian) made a pretty good joke about that called stupid in school. Spanish was fairly easy for me to learn, I only took a year of it though and forgot most of what I learned due to not having a chance to practice.
Although one thing that can make learning a new language easier or harder is how similar it is to your native language. English and Spanish for example share nearly the same alphabet and same letters. but Japanese does not have any similarity in letters.
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Re: Arabic Language

Postby PhoenixKnight » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:15 pm

Having learned 3 languages, I would rank Arabic, French, Spanish and th n English
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Re: Arabic Language

Postby Sebena » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:18 pm

It all depends on the point of view my native language is Croatian it has 7 grammatial cases while english has less, our grammar is much harder than english one so for me it was fairly easy to learn when I decided to give it time.

Japanese is language which is one of the hardest on the world for people like you and I who has small touch with their language and culture as far as it goes with school unless something changed in last decade but as most people from japan visit croatia often I had chance of meeting them and listening them speaking I caught quiet some words and their meaning but don't ask me to write them correctly as I have no idea but still I can proudly say that I can undestand 15-20% of entire sentence :)
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Re: Arabic Language

Postby DezNutz » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:02 am

Learning to speak another language is not hard. When I was in the military, we were given a crash course on Arabic, particularly key words and phrases that we would likely use and what they meant. We also learned some key cultural etiquette. The difficulty comes when you need to read and write it, especially for languages that are not based on Greek and/or Latin.

A good example:
Mandarin (Chinese language) has 3000+ characters in its "alphabet".
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Re: Arabic Language

Postby PhoenixKnight » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:09 am

No offense DezNutz but I have heard many fellow Americans speak Arabic and only one came even close to been OK!
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Re: Arabic Language

Postby Meliva » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:17 am

DezNutz wrote:Learning to speak another language is not hard. When I was in the military, we were given a crash course on Arabic, particularly key words and phrases that we would likely use and what they meant. We also learned some key cultural etiquette. The difficulty comes when you need to read and write it, especially for languages that are not based on Greek and/or Latin.

A good example:
Mandarin (Chinese language) has 3000+ characters in its "alphabet".


its one thing to learn to speak key words and phrases in another language, but actually learning to speak it fluently is a much harder task.
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Re: Arabic Language

Postby DezNutz » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:22 am

PhoenixKnight wrote:No offense DezNutz but I have heard many fellow Americans speak Arabic and only one came even close to been OK!


Speaking a language, speaking proficiently, and speaking fluently are all completely different things. One can learn to speak a language but not be proficient or fluent in it.

Meliva wrote:its one thing to learn to speak key words and phrases in another language, but actually learning to speak it fluently is a much harder task.


Yes, but one does not have to be fluent in a language to understand and speak it. I can read and speak French and Latin to where I have an understanding of it and can make some coherent sentences; however, I am far from fluent in either language.
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Re: Arabic Language

Postby Maha » Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:09 am

maha the polystotter had to learn Asian languages as an adult. maha alaways used a scale 0-5 to get his proficiency tested.
0: nada
0+: a few words and sentences memorized
1 : basic conversation

5: fluent as a native

a language becomes difficult when it uses a different script, grammar structure or tonal system.
most languages have their own tongue twisters as well, sounds unique to that language.

the more overlap, the easier to learn
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