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Egypt taking over Hannes

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:56 pm
by PhoenixKnight
Hi everyone. You probably noticed that in the game Egypt appeared a couple of times in Hannes.
I wanted to show my country flag in a country on the map for 2 reasons.
1. I am actually Egyptian and in the light of the current events, I thought some might have questions to an actual Egyptian.
2. Game wise I am the sole active player in that country and I would like to recruit some more players.

To Wales citizens, I will not be able to keep the country too long since you have more active player than just me.
Whoever voodooed me from you guys, I retaliated and I talked to Xanadu about it, so Mr 23 in particular I want to apologize to since he is the one who suffered the most.

Please feel free to ask and I will do my best to answer about the current situation.

Sincerely,

Re: Egypt taking over Hannes

PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:07 pm
by Lefty
I applaud your efforts. The situation is scary looking from the outside. I can only imagine the tense and stressful situations that occur. I hear of hundreds being killed when protesting. From the outside ( western hemisphere ) the media tells me who is bad ( for Egypt ) and who is good. Can you briefly tell us some of your thoughts on the turmoil. What one thought/idea should the world know about the situation?

Re: Egypt taking over Hannes

PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:39 pm
by PhoenixKnight
Well my thoughts on the matter are as follows:
1. In US and Europe a 9000 person protest that was disbanded using live ammo had 37 casualties and another with 19000 person had 64 casualties. There for for a nearly a million person protest to disband with 600 casualties is logical and amazing in terms of numbers.
2. Loss in life is sad and regretful and even one is too much.
3. The protesters where not as peaceful as they claimed. They were massing weapons, oil, gas masks and making threats of killing, burning, bombing the country and bring it to a halt if the government does not give in to all their demands (regardless that the majority rose to overthrow President Morsi) and even referred to themselves as the New Alqaida. The destroyed pavements, and other public properties to build barricades in multiple locations including on top of bridges and highways.They also would hold hostage and torture to the point of killing people who they suspect are Christian, secular of belong to a government organization. And finally they called for foreign intervention from the US and Europe to forcefully overturn what is claimed to be a coup and restore order in Egypt.
4. Currently the protesters turned to a riot, are burning churches, government buildings, police stations, libraries, rail roads, utility poles and businesses that do not belong to an Islamic front association and killing people whom they deem against them whether civilians or security forces. Such behavior is not acceptable in any form and thus it is natural for security forces and locals to try to defend themselves and restore order.
5. The reasons for overthrowing Morsi and the reason why the army stepped in ( which the media like to call a coup) are as follows:

a. During the presidential elections and before the official results were announced, the Brotherhood party announced they won 3 hours before the official results, which caused suspicion of the results being rigged.
b. To assist the newly elected president, the extremists held siege to the constitutional court, media town, and other key law and media institutions and attacked key media and political figures.
c. President Morsi made a constitutional declaration that made him above the law and the constitution.
d. He alienated all other political views and did little to include them.
e. He failed to rescue the economy per his promises.
f. He pushed for a constitution that was objected upon by all political parties except his own. The judges except 2000 boycott supervision of the voting process which was not enough to unbiased coverage of all locations, so the brotherhood party supervised it which made people lose faith in the process.
g. During his rule, Christians and Shia'a were murdered in the streets and the president and the ruling party official standing was that they are dogs and deserved to be killed.
h. President Morsi Promised to have a People's Parliament by mid June, and June ended and there were no steps taken towards achieving that.
I. finally when the people took to the streets to ask him to step down, he made a speech stating that he will not leave and that he and his followers will fight to the last man so that he can stay in power even if it meant civil war. And this is when the army stepped in.

Re: Egypt taking over Hannes

PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:26 pm
by Raz Al Ghul
While many of us here in the US read or hear about what is going on we really do not know the whole thing, on a news site I watch TYT or The Young Turks they have reported on this several times, but again we never get the whole picture your view is invaluable in understanding the actions taken by the army, now with these muslim brotherhood supporters turned al qaeda it goes to show how dangerous religion is more so when it has tasted power in politics, and why I feel religion as it stands (not the faith or the beliefs) but the structure is poison and should have no place in politics it leads to laws that favor and in this case lead to killing of people of other faiths and causes others of the same faith to join in on the hate.

I hope you stay safe during all this and thank you for sharing what is going on in Egypt.

Re: Egypt taking over Hannes

PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:52 pm
by PhoenixKnight
Actually Islam as a religion is very applicable in politics, economy and all aspects of life. The issue with the Brotherhood is that they have an extreme interpretation of Islam and use only the shallow parts of it while not applying even 2% of the actual religion.

Re: Egypt taking over Hannes

PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:29 am
by Raz Al Ghul
That is what I am talking about it is a dangerous tool and often misused, even here in the US fundamentalists of all faiths cause damage in varying ways, we see some pressing laws that respect one religion over another or respecting religion over no religion, in many of our states you can not run for office if you are not religious typically of the christian faith, not to mention that because there is a large following of christians here we tend to see laws that favor christians, much like when the muslim brotherhood was in power you saw laws that favored muslims, religions and politics do not mix well for democracies.

My whole point being is the religion is a powerful tool on it's own so is holding a public office combine the two and it is a nasty combo as the saying goes power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.