same old stan

[Lil Lola]

Oh yeah they are although it would be kinda fun interesting to have a new state. And it’s pretty big. All that income. And I bet that would not have to pay more money on products because they would belong to USA? I wonder how that would benefit us in taxes? Like flushing our treasury. Hnmm.

[Most Lee Harmless]

MAGA me this : annex/invade/conquer/persuade (however it gets done) a country of 40 million population. Make it your 51st state. That makes them citizens... with votes. So.... in which century will we see the next GOP president elected?

[Lachlan]

And there is most certainly a left vs right issue due to core values being at the forefront of each political party

list trumps top 10 issues he ran on
then list the lefts top 10
they literally cannot mesh or unite to work together with such unalike and opposing views... ever

if you took my kid because I refused to pump them with your gender garbage drugs there would be violence

Yeah, that's definitely more true with you guys. Democrats and Republicans cannot agree on practically anything. There is no real bipartisan support for many things I think because if one party comes up with a good idea the other party rejects it simply because it was an idea from the other party. I reckon your parties need to be more like Australian parties. Disagree on many things but agree on broad strokes policies like defense, Russia invaded Ukraine (not the other way around lol) and other such things.

If you came to arrest me for hate speech I would pull out an illegal firearm in your country and shoot you coppers
btw Russia did invade Ukraine and Nato was fixing to set up shop and was utilizing Ukraine to have labs on our behalf they shouldn't have.
Ukraine has also been killing ex Russian citizens, Christians and has a horrible Neo Nazi problem... fook Ukraine and Russia

I have never heard anything about Christians being killed. All I heard in that regard is that the Ukrainian orthodox church split from the Russian one for obvious reasons. In the past I would say you are correct that Ukraine had a neo nazi problem but I don't think that is the case anymore. Eastern Ukraine apparently had more far right groups of which most of those regions are under Russian occupation (lol far right in the far right of Ukraine ). I know for a fact the Donbass people's republic has one or maybe a few battalions which support the far right. As far as I'm aware the only major Ukrainian neo nazi military unit was Azov battalion but I would not say they are a neo nazi unit anymore because most of those neo nazi's are dead. As for them killing ex russian citizens well I don't even know why you are mentioning that. Obviously, Ukrainians do not have a charitable opinion of the russians once they invaded or when they occupied Crimea so it's understandable why they are being killed.

Not sure about the truth of those labs, but Ukraine needs to join NATO otherwise a decade down the line they will probably be invaded again.

[Lachlan]

Lachlan your example of aluminum is based on something other than facts.

The aluminum sector comprises three segments:

The upstream sector, which includes the mining of bauxite, the refining of bauxite into alumina (aluminum oxide), and the smelting of alumina to yield primary aluminum. The molten aluminum is cast into ingots, billets, or slabs, collectively referred to as unwrought aluminum.

Secondary aluminum is derived from recycled scrap metal. Secondary production involves smelting both old scrap recovered from finished products, such as cans and auto parts, and new scrap, material left over from processing aluminum into consumer or industrial products. Similar to primary aluminum, secondary aluminum typically is cast into unwrought shapes.

The downstream sector uses primary or secondary aluminum to make aluminum products, which may then be used in the manufacture of motor vehicles, construction materials, consumer durables, and other products.

We have been the world's leading aluminum manufacturer several times. Currently, I would guess we are 5th to 8th.
Why?
Factories moving outside the U.S.
To pay cheaper labor and have fewer restrictions on the manufacturing process

Tariifs are on other nations and means with that extra tax they cannot compete with our U.S. market of manufacturers of aluminum.

They have 3 options
take a loss and enrich us by paying the tariff
build factories in the us and enrich us with employment
or become irrelevant and not sell in our economy

Either way we will gain, this is true of almost all facets of industry excluding minerals we don't mine due to their rarity or absence in our nation.

Afterthought... we also say aluminum the correct way .. you fookers trip all over the word

Yes but my understanding is that tariffs push up the price of aluminum because less is being imported due to the higher cost which then makes it more expensive due to supply and demand.

[Dmanwuzhere]

the tariffs are imposed on items the us supplies as well, for example, steel aluminum, and lumber
the tariffs make it impossible for the sanctioned nation to compete in the us market with those items
if as a result us companies were to raise the prices on that product drastically within the us they would be punished in some way
with restrictions taxes regulations etc

that's the whole point in America first

now if you pull a Biden on the other hand with say energy
impose regulations fines and sanctions on us energy companies and restrict drilling and close a pipeline
other nations will of course raise prices because they have no interest in our market other than to take as much of our capital as fast as possible
with the highest prices possible and they control the market at that point

[Dmanwuzhere]

If you owned the most nuclear missiles on the planet and had decent separation between you and the nation that had the second most nuclear missiles the better military and a compulsion to always interfere in other nations would you want them on your border?

the answer to that is putin not wanting nato next door

for all you fookers that want nato next door and you are from other nations
let the us withdraw from nato and you can move next to putin all you want
police him all you want but do it on your dime utilizing your sons and daughters when it leads to war

I don't want to hear how if he gets Ukraine he will roll unchecked through Europe when he has trouble
with taking over his bordering nation who is utilizing third rate weapons given to them by us

both ukraine and Russia are corrupt as fook and have none of my sympathies
I say let em duke it out and any European country that wants to jump in do so at their own risk on their own dime

we in the us have our own corruption to stamp out and our own interests to sort

that's just where I'm at, our national debt should be telling us to get our affairs sorted before we continue going in debt
to fund corrupt nations and feeding our corrupt politicians

[Lil Lola]

MAGA me this : annex/invade/conquer/persuade (however it gets done) a country of 40 million population. Make it your 51st state. That makes them citizens... with votes. So.... in which century will we see the next GOP president elected?

Well we can’t pretend everyone is a Democrat or Republican. Maybe we could get more independent votes and finally get Bernie in office. Or you probably have people who are more aligned with the libertine party. There is probably a mix of ideology like everywhere.

[Dmanwuzhere]

MAGA me this : annex/invade/conquer/persuade (however it gets done) a country of 40 million population. Make it your 51st state. That makes them citizens... with votes. So.... in which century will we see the next GOP president elected?

Well we can’t pretend everyone is a Democrat or Republican. Maybe we could get more independent votes and finally get Bernie in office. Or you probably have people who are more aligned with the libertine party. There is probably a mix of ideology like everywhere.

Justin Pierre James Trudeau aka prime minister black face himself has done enough damage as a far-left advocate no worries Canada is pretty sick of the far left as is


canada is about 67 percent in the middle .... of its political issues... throw in our issues and the center veers right our right was normally not so far right but the left has run so far left folks not moving on issues are automatically in our right-leaning section

[Lil Lola]

the far left is so far out that they circled to far right so why complain that is what I want to know lol. They seem to be happy with Trump so why complain about MAGA? If you do not like him don’t vote for him. But not voting is the dumbest thing you can do. You gave up your voice when you do that. So you just can’t complain when things don’t work out. Trump told you what he was going to do. I do not know why anyone would think any different

[Leo]

The far left doesn't like trump. I do agree that the far left and right are very similar in some ways such as liking guns and nonpeaceful protests, but they are far from the same. Far left is usually either anarchist or communist, far right is usually either fascist or neo libertarian