Fantasy Draft IX - Official Chit Chat

[Dmanwuzhere]

lots of regulatory data could be considered for the rules
just not this one as the rules were set over a month ago
without lots of crying then

suddenly the protest is over an individual not a rule
no one had a problem with bs being labeled inactive
but suddenly if it hits close to home there is lots of crying lol

[Most Lee Harmless]

Logging in is a simplistic standard, Dez. But defining activity by the amount of 'public actions' is equally simplistic in a game in which many acts have no public footprint.

You could play 24/7 in this game and, apart from non-public footprints like guild forums, memberlists, etc, you could have no public presence at all.

You mailed me to enquire if Seb was active : as a guildmate I could confirm he had logged in a few days previously.

It was you who then defined he was inactive because his public footprint was lacking evidence of your definition of 'active' play.

I do not know all that he did when logged in, nor do you. I do know he could have spent many hours housekeeping. He could have started a build in his hideout, undertaken a tech, moved funds between banks (actually, I know he did do that), placed bids or sales on the ship, credit or card markets, improved a plantation, purchased or sold goods on the port or resource markets, farmed some NPC fleets, cast some voodoo, bought credits, bought turns, built ships, read and/or replied to mail... that is just off the top of my head.

Yet... you decide he must be inactive because you saw nothing. Now... that is a simplistic definition.

But in the rules it says that activity must be apparent.

Apparent to who? By the standard mentioned by Dez then I am inactive too. As are you because I have not noticed your presence in-game either.
As is Dez, not seen him much in the metrics of late. So... it's official! Nobody is active unless they have undertaken publically mentioned actions within the last 24 hours.

Anyhow, it is all moot as hpwiz has nominated a replacement pick. Just another example of simple-minded definitions proclaimed without much consideration for the reality of the game being given some notion of an infallible truth.

[DezNutz]

The standard mentioned by Dez is to give captains a more level playing field in selecting their picks. As I said before, if the rule for activity is that the player must have logged in, how would a captain know if someone has logged in or not. It would essentially allow any player to be selected as there is no means to know when every possible candidate has logged in or more importantly if they haven't logged in recently. Guilds give some insight but not every player is in a guild so that mechanism can not be fairly used across the board.

So like I said before, as a player could simply log in and out, using your logical train of thought they should still be considered active. But since I can't confirm that for non-guild players, a fellow guildmember saying they logged in recently cannot be the sole determination for activity. Thus logging in can't be the sole determination for being active, as a non-guild player could log in and out and be "active" and we would have no means to verify that they are active.

Since simply logging in can't be verified for all players, it can't be the only determination for activity.

[Lil Lola]

Well I think that Dez at least tried contacting Sebena and I think the Captain did as well. I also believe other players in his nation were consulted aside from Danik. I think Dez gave him a deadline for a response also. So a decision was made when he got enough of a response at least.

Lol but with Cudeggs the HNs I tossed at him to make a return in timely fashion didn’t work..Dez should have sent voodoo flying his way lol.

[Dejanira]

While Sebena has logged in recently, his activity is insufficient to be considered active for draft selection. Leo please choose a replacement.

What type of activity is "sufficient"? Just to know.

[PFH]

Not being insignificant, Dejan.

[Argo]

Not being insignificant, Dejan.

Define 'insignificant"

[Lil Lola]

Okay so then this game is only for attentions seekers this time around?

[PFH]

Not being insignificant, Dejan.

Define 'insignificant"

Hey self-proclaimed pirate queen is a good candidate, especially one that hasn’t stolen ships in almost two years.

[DezNutz]

While Sebena has logged in recently, his activity is insufficient to be considered active for draft selection. Leo please choose a replacement.

What type of activity is "sufficient"? Just to know.

Activity that would be noticeable by someone looking such as but not limited to plantation production, fleets that are moving, trading, or fishing, plunder or skirmish activity, influence activity, voodoo activity, recent in game tavern or nation posts, recent forum posts, etc.