Fantasy Draft IX - Official Chit Chat

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Re: Fantasy Draft IX - Official Chit Chat

Postby Lil Lola » Wed Mar 16, 2022 2:25 am

Stan just told you to get bent Mel.
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Re: Fantasy Draft IX - Official Chit Chat

Postby Meliva » Wed Mar 16, 2022 2:26 am

my back is already bent :P.
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Re: Fantasy Draft IX - Official Chit Chat

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Wed Mar 16, 2022 2:27 am

Seb was online a few days ago.

Trouble with the definition used is that it then declares me as inactive : I have not skirmished in years. It has been a considerable time since I put a hit fleet out. I dont hang in Slack. I rarely post in the forums these days : Ergo : I aint here.

But... I am indeed busy doing stuff in game everyday, just not stuff that shows up in the gossip pages or the more obvious metrics.

Dez did mail me to enquire if Seb was active : I replied that he had logged in within the last seven days. As for what he did at that point... no-one elses business, certainly not Dez's.
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Re: Fantasy Draft IX - Official Chit Chat

Postby Lefty » Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:08 am

I farted last week. I think its eligible to be picked.. cause it skirmished my poo. Can someone give a sniff and let me know if it is? Thanks

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Re: Fantasy Draft IX - Official Chit Chat

Postby Argo » Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:17 am

Lefty wrote:I farted last week. I think its eligible to be picked.. cause it skirmished my poo. Can someone give a sniff and let me know if it is? Thanks

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Re: Fantasy Draft IX - Official Chit Chat

Postby DezNutz » Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:32 am

Most Lee Harmless wrote:Seb was online a few days ago.

Trouble with the definition used is that it then declares me as inactive : I have not skirmished in years. It has been a considerable time since I put a hit fleet out. I dont hang in Slack. I rarely post in the forums these days : Ergo : I aint here.

But... I am indeed busy doing stuff in game everyday, just not stuff that shows up in the gossip pages or the more obvious metrics.

Dez did mail me to enquire if Seb was active : I replied that he had logged in within the last seven days. As for what he did at that point... no-one elses business, certainly not Dez's.


That's nice Danik.

At no point when I asked "Is Sebena (Wolfie) active?" did I ask, what did he do after he logged in.

The purpose of the activity rule is to prevent inactive players from being selected. The rule gives guidelines for the Captains when choosing their picks, to include the use of visible metrics. No where in the rule does it give any suggestion that anyone needs to know the inner details of what someone does after they login. The rule does give leeway to interpretation of what is active to judging officials if the question of activity is brought forth. The implication that I asked for or tried to find out what Sebena's activities where beyond the simple question I posed "Is Sebena (Wolfie) active?" is nothing but a cheap shot and a bold face lie.
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Re: Fantasy Draft IX - Official Chit Chat

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:53 pm

No, you did not ask... you simply assumed that ALL he did was log in then log out and, because YOU have not seen him.. well... it's official, he was doing nothing.

You are not a nuetral.party, Dez, you belong to a guild, you act in your own interest too. As I said, what he did when he logged in was not your business and certainly not mine to be sharing with a competing player.

You assume an awful lot, mmmm... guess we can see where that comment is going...

Oh, about time you updated your sig... you need to add Supreme Emperor, Judge, Jury and Decider of Rules to your august titles.
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Re: Fantasy Draft IX - Official Chit Chat

Postby Zephore » Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:21 pm

Most Lee Harmless wrote:No, you did not ask... you simply assumed that ALL he did was log in then log out and, because YOU have not seen him.. well... it's official, he was doing nothing.

You are not a nuetral.party, Dez, you belong to a guild, you act in your own interest too. As I said, what he did when he logged in was not your business and certainly not mine to be sharing with a competing player.

You assume an awful lot, mmmm... guess we can see where that comment is going...

Oh, about time you updated your sig... you need to add Supreme Emperor, Judge, Jury and Decider of Rules to your august titles.

I gave off nation sensitive information about him, to Dez.
That limits his play to either ship building or anything that does not require you to take action in nation, or put you on public display, in form of either plunderboard or skirmish. Dez got his fair share of information to rule him inactive.
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Re: Fantasy Draft IX - Official Chit Chat

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:48 pm

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Just because one does not skirmish does not mean one is not present in the game. Isolating individual metrics as proof of an overall performance is faulty reasoning. Just because one is not present in two, or three, or four metrics is not proof of absence. This game has become a multi-faceted one, with strands and paths which can be glaringly public : being a Skirmisher, being a Monarch, being a raider, etc.. or barely noticable : a plantation owner, a ship-builder, a market-player. Absence of one activity does not prove absence of any activity : that is what 'inactive' means : not here to play. It does not mean a player must perform certain acts to 'prove' they are here.

Seb logged in within the last seven days. The game itself rules that a player may be considered 'inactive' only once a much longer time has passed since logging in : ref : nation votes to deport : bank rules on 'inactive' accounts, the loss of ships to tidal waves, and so on.

This whole farce is simply one of making definitions fit a rule to bring about a desired outcome : the exclusion of a player because 'some-one' has decided their point of view is the only one that matters : I have not seen him, ergo, he is not here.
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Re: Fantasy Draft IX - Official Chit Chat

Postby Zephore » Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:17 pm

Most Lee Harmless wrote:Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Just because one does not skirmish does not mean one is not present in the game. Isolating individual metrics as proof of an overall performance is faulty reasoning. Just because one is not present in two, or three, or four metrics is not proof of absence. This game has become a multi-faceted one, with strands and paths which can be glaringly public : being a Skirmisher, being a Monarch, being a raider, etc.. or barely noticable : a plantation owner, a ship-builder, a market-player. Absence of one activity does not prove absence of any activity : that is what 'inactive' means : not here to play. It does not mean a player must perform certain acts to 'prove' they are here.

Seb logged in within the last seven days. The game itself rules that a player may be considered 'inactive' only once a much longer time has passed since logging in : ref : nation votes to deport : bank rules on 'inactive' accounts, the loss of ships to tidal waves, and so on.

This whole farce is simply one of making definitions fit a rule to bring about a desired outcome : the exclusion of a player because 'some-one' has decided their point of view is the only one that matters : I have not seen him, ergo, he is not here.


While I do generally agree, Danik, I see no proof of Seb having anything to do with nation votes.
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